http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2007/03/01/news/local_news/1021491.txt

I think that is totally ridiculus! They are shooting themselves in the foot and punish good steward ship.

I think your post was beautiful. And while I’m not a real Christian (ok, Catholic by birth but that’s about it), I see your point exactly. RIght on!

Ok, I’m staying away from that debate, on to another topic and question for you…

I love Montana as well, but we have avoided it on our trip because of the high cost of real estate there. Same thing with Ketchum Idaho. That country is our favorite ever, but if we go back we’ll fall in love with what I think is the unattainable.

What was your impression? Is living there affordable in any way whatsoever?

Rene
http://www.liveworkdream.com

Regarding your question about judging someone by their occupation….no, I would not judge someone because they have chosen a certain occupation.

What a great idea you have here! I hope to join you – maybe even meet you someday!

I would like to say to _**_ that I appreciate the balance you are striving to bring. I would ask you to be more gracious. Raising the value of the created earth above the level of those who it was created for (us) is way off. However, I don’t see that worldview peeking out of this family’s website.

Sustainable living (an overused term perhaps, but one that hits the heart of the issue much more effectively that “environmentalism”) is by it’s very definition essential to continued life on this farm the Lord gave us. Harvesting trees can be done sustainably, so I say a hearty NO to the thought that loggers are less Christian because of their vocation. That said, history shows that we broken humans are not prone to moderation when material success is on the line. The timber industry is no exception – in the PNW or S.America, places that are likely to have huge impacts on atmospheric conditions because of the mass of green they represent. I am a tree professional and would love to see balance on this issue PARTICULARLY among believers.

I have much to say about this topic, but I dont want to fill you website with it!

God bless you!!

Thanks for clarifying your position and for your insight that you seemingly do not align with the “Radical Environmentalists of today”.

Question for you – If I make my living as a Logger, ‘am I less a Christian in your eyes because our environmental ideals are the opposite?

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It would be great if you would give us your name so we can address each other. You are obviously a very articulate and intelligent person…however, I think you have misinterpreted what I was trying to say.

I said that “Christians should be THE most radical environmentalists”… I didn’t say that “Christians should BE radical environmentalists”. There is a big difference between becoming like the radicals that are already out there…and becoming an entirely new breed of Christ-centered environmentalists…filled with love for God’s creation and compassion and mercy towards those who think differently than they do.

I hope this clears up anything you might have been upset about.

Peace…
Sara

It has been said that the first person that makes an insult surrenders in the battle of ideas. Congrats.

Be a kind an open person does not insulate one from being misguided. “being green: is not misguided, it is a personal choice and Sara is widely applauded for that as is any American that follows their personal dreams.

What is unacceptable is a demand that “all Christians be Radical Environmentalists”. This is a sign of a zealot and is nothing to be proud of.

Let me leave you with quotes directly from the founders and present leaders of the Deep Ecology and Radical Environmental, fringe movement.

“Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license…. All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.” —David Brower, Friends of the Earth

“If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS. It [AIDS] has the potential to end industrialism, which is the main force behind the environmental crises.” —Earth First! newsletter

“I think if we don’t overthrow capitalism, we don’t have a chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecological society under socialism. I don’t think it’s possible under capitalism.” —Judi Barri of Earth First!

“We already have too much economic growth in the United States. Economic growth in rich countries like ours is the disease, not the cure.” —Paul Elrich, Stanford University biologist and Advisor to Albert Gore

“I honor Earth First for having the guts to do the things they do. It’s not for me, but I understand why they do what they do. And, ultimately, we all help each other.” —Brock Adams, VP, Audubon Society, quoted in the Los Angeles Times

“The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state.” —Keith Boulding, originator of the “Spaceship Earth” concept

Anyway Sara is so brave and kind hearted enough to share her experiences us with us, which I am grateful. She is a great example of how Christians should not get caught up in the “things” / materialism of this world.